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Runner's Knee Treatment San Diego

Runner’s Knee Treatment |San Diego

Runner’s Knee Treatment | San Diego

Patellofemoral pain syndrome, aka runner’s knee, is characterized by achy, dull pain generally around the front of the knee. Runner’s knee is a common type of running injury that we see in our San Diego running injury clinic. With a combination of manual therapy, exercise, and run program modification, the runner returns to running pain free. Let’s take a look at common symptoms/causes of runner’s knee and the treatments that will get you back to running pain free.

Symptoms

Most runners will feel dull, achy pain diffusely around the front of the knee. The pain may favor the outer front or the inner front of the knee. It is usually worse with longer or down hill runs. Sitting for long periods usually increases tightness and soreness around the knee. Stretching often makes the knee feel better.

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Common Causes of Runner’s Knee

Here are the most common causes for developing runner’s knee.

  1. Running Form– Many runners, beginner through experienced, have running form flaws that create excessive tension at the knees. Common culprits are running with a low cadence, over striding, running with a crossover gait, and poor posture. Read our blogs for more information: Increase Your Cadence!, Do You Run With a Cross-Over Gait?, Improve Running Posture.
  2. Performing “Too much, Too Soon”– This is what most commonly affects newer runners. They begin training for their first 5k, 10k, or half marathon and start running too many miles with too little recover. The tissues do not have enough time to heal between running sessions, and eventually injury results.
  3. Training Error– If a runner drastically changes their training, runner’s knee can develop. Adding significant amounts of hill training, particularly running down hill, is the most common training error that can cause or exacerbate runner’s knee.
  4. Muscular Imbalance– Runners who are excessively tight in the quadriceps muscles are prone to developing discomfort in their knees. Keeping up with a stretching regimen will help ease the symptoms.
  5. Older Age– Older runners tend to have some decrease in joint space due to wearing down of the tissues over the years. When the joint between the knee cap and knee wears down, there is more compression at the cartilage which can cause swelling and irritation of the local tissues. Every hear cracking, popping , or tearing when walking up and down stairs or with squats? Those are signs of cartilage wear called crepitus.

Runner’s Knee Treatment San Diego

Treatment for Runner’s knee involves 4 main approaches. The first is to address the injured tissue using Active Release Technique and Graston Technique. Active Release Technique for runner’s knee is effective at breaking down tight scar tissue around the knee. The second, using a running gait analysis to identify and correct common running form errors. Check out our full gait analysis for our patient with runner’s knee here: Runner’s Knee Case Study. The third is to modify the run training plan. Proper periodization is critical when coming back from injury. The goal is to modify certain factors (ex: terrain) that are known to irritate the knee. The fourth is to add strength training to the supporting muscle groups. This will provide more support, resist strain, and ultimately decrease chance of developing a running injury.

If you are experiencing pain in the front of the knee, you may be dealing with runner’s knee. It is important that you get the knee evaluated to get a proper diagnosis. This will help develop a correct treatment plan. Each person may benefit from slightly different approaches. The exercises and training modifications given to each patient are unique to the individual.

Our office is located in Mission Valley, San Diego near Normal Heights, La Mesa, Hill Crest, Point loma, Bay Park, Clairemont, Pacific Beach, and Bird Rock. Schedule online with one of our sports chiropractors today. We will help you get back to running pain free!

Treat Plantar Fasciitis at home

Top 7 Ways to Treat Plantar Fasciitis at Home

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Top 7 Ways to Treat Plantar Fasciitis at Home

Plantar Fasciitis can be a frustrating condition to treat. It can take weeks, months, or even years to fully resolve. Our sports injury clinic in Mission Valley, San Diego specializes in treating chronic injuries, plantar fasciitis included. Check out our other blog post on how we treat plantar fasciitis in our office Plantar Fasciitis: Resolving Foot Pain with Active Release Technique (ART) and Graston. Along with treatment, here are the top 7 ways to treat plantar fasciitis at home.

Trigger Point Release Ball

Using a trigger point release ball and roller to help massage tight muscles of the foot and calf can help ease the symptoms of plantar fasciitis. We recommend the TriggerPoint Foundation Starter Kit  for self massage of the lower legs and feet. It has a durable and firm roller to address the calves and trigger point balls to use on specific points of the calves and bottom of the feet. Using them daily will help improve the quality of the tissues and help treat plantar fasciitis at home.

Calf Stretcher

If you have tight calves, and many of us do, daily stretching of the lower leg will help improve function of the foot and ankle. We recommend a dedicated Calf Stretcher & Foot Rocker  it allows for a really good stretch to the lower leg and foot.  Using it to stretch multiple times throughout the day will help keep the muscles and tendons loose.

YogaToes

Stretching the toes out where the muscles, tendons, and fascia insert can help ease the symptoms of plantar fasciitis. We like YogaToes because they are thick, strong, and durable. Other devices we have found to break easy, or do not offer a good enough stretch in most cases. Where YogaToes when sitting at home, move your toes in a stretched position. They can be very valuable to treat plantar fasciitis at home especially if you have other signs of toe deformity such as bunions.

Heel Cups

One of the ways to ease the symptoms of plantar fasciitis is to stay off of your feet when it hurts. For most people, that is nearly impossible! Tuli’s Heavy Duty Gel Heel Cups are designed to placed in you shoes and absorb shock transmitted to the heel from walking and standing. We also like heel cups as they squeeze your heel together from the sides. This reinforces the heels fat pad to help bolster your natural heel cushion.

Night Splint

Classic plantar Fasciitis symptoms include sharp, dagger like pain in the bottom of the heel. These symptoms are worse during the first steps out of bed in the morning. This is due to the tissues tightening up over night and then getting rapidly/forcefully stretched when you stand up and put weight on the plantar fascia. A Plantar Fasciitis Night Splint helps keep the fascia and lower leg muscles in a stretched position over night to reduce the pain in the morning. It can be highly effective to treat plantar fasciitis at home.

The one complaint we hear from patients is that it is difficult to sleep through the night with it on as it is bulky and awkward. If sleeping is a challenge, then where the brace when you are stationary for extended periods of time to maintain flexibility to the fascia. The next item on the list is a similar device but tends to offer a bit more comfort for sleeping.

Strassburg Sock

The Strassburg Sock is another device to be used when sleeping to help maintain flexibility to the foot and lower leg muscles. One reason we like it better than a splint is that it pulls the toes back to get a better stretch. The two complaints we hear are difficult to sleep with and the sock can compress the calf too much. If sleeping with the sock is too difficult, wear it when you are stationary for long periods of time.

Arch Support

The final recommendation is arch support to help support the plantar fascia. In cases of low arches, extra support to the arch and heel can help ease the symptoms of plantar fasciitis. We recommend Superfeet GREEN Full Length Insole for a couple of reasons. If the goal is arch support, you need something firm enough to actually support the arch. Too many insoles are too soft and do not offer any support whatsoever. Superfeet insoles are made form hard plastic or carbon (depending on models). They support the arch sufficiently. Another reason we prefer Superfeet, is that they have deep heel cups in the insole. This can help bolster the padding around the heel to offer symptom relief.

These are the top 7 ways to treat plantar fasciitis at home. Please keep in mind that these are general recommendations. We always recommend getting a proper evaluation by a health care provider. If you are in San Diego, our injury treatment clinic is conveniently located in Mission Valley. We are located near Hillcrest, Normal Heights, University Heights, North Park, South Park, and Downtown. Our Sports Chiropractors are trained to diagnose, manage, and treat plantar fasciitis. We also offer Acupuncture, Personal Training, and Massage. Please schedule using our online scheduling application or call our office at 619-818-4306 today!

Running analysis San Diego

Running Analysis San Diego

Running Analysis San Diego

Case Study 1- Runner’s Knee

In this running analysis case study, we look at what is exacerbating our patient’s “runner’s knee”. He is a triathlete, who is new to the sport. The knee pain is worse following runs and hard efforts on the bike. Stretching, foam rolling, Active Release treatments seem to help but the pain always returns. He has never had a running analysis, so we put him on the treadmill to see what his running technique looks like.  Watch the complete in depth running analysis below.

Additional Information

Before the running analysis, we performed a physical exam. Our patient is 6’3″ and weighs around 190 lbs. As mentioned in the video, he was found to have a slow cadence, over stride, and demonstrated a cross over gait. Those findings with a runner of his size can create a lot of impact force with each step. To reduce the strain in the knee, it is crucial to get his feet to land closer to his body. In his case, increasing cadence helped accomplish this. It is important to note however that not everybody will need to perform the same corrections to get the foot closer to the body.  This  is what makes a running analysis so valuable; each runner may need to work on different cues to accomplish the same goal.

Future Considerations

Watching the running analysis above, you may think “But he can work on this, and this, and this to help with his form too!”. I believe he can work on more cues and drills to help with his running form. BUT if you give a runner too many cues to work on immediately, they will likely get overwhelmed with the information and not properly execute the cues/drills. Further more, they will likely end up running very stiff, and out of sync making the runs feel terrible!

For these reasons, we will only give 1 to 2 cues/drills to work on at a time. We want our runners to ENJOY running while making beneficial changes to their running technique! So for our patients case, we recommend 4-8 weeks to start working on changing his technique. Then we perform a second running analysis to get a new baseline and then make further recommendations from there.

Schedule your running analysis today at www.peakformhealthcenter.com! Our running experts at Peak Form Health Center in Mission Valley, San Diego have worked with hundreds of runners. We are located near Hillcrest, Normal Heights, La Mesa, Ocean Beach, Point Loma, and Clairemont Mesa. Our exertise will get you back to running injury free and increase your performance!

San Diego Running Gait Analysis

Running Gait Analysis San Diego

Running Gait Analysis San Diego

A running gait analysis helps identify common running form inefficiencies that may result in injury or at the very least decrease running performance. Our running gait analysis program in San Diego California takes a runner through multiple trials of treadmill running with video feedback. Based on the video analysis and other measurements during the running gait analysis, we can make recommendations for the runner to begin working on. We then do more rounds of video analysis to note the changes that occur with those initial running modifications. This step by step approach gives runners significant feedback to begin working on improving their running gait! Check out our brief video below to see our running gait analysis in action!

Running Gait Analysis Goals

With every runner, we have several goals in mind when performing the gait analysis. We aim to:

  • Identify major running form inefficiencies
  • Give patients running cues to start changing their running form
  • Show patients before and after videos so they can visualize the changes
  • Recommend drills and workouts to begin reinforcing those changes

With dedication from the runner, the running form changes will take permanent effect. These changes do not happen over night! Consistently performing the drills and running workouts will slowly make the changes over time. We recommend 6-8 weeks, working on the recommended changes before we do a follow up running gait analysis. This allows enough time to see how they effects have taken place.

A running gait analysis is the only tool that can identify and CORRECT running related inefficiencies. A common misconception is that if a runner works on strength training for certain muscle groups, they will improve their technique. While there are benefits to performing strength training, working on the recommended corrections DURING running is the only intervention that will improve running gait.

Our team of sports chiropractors are trained in using running gait analysis to help prevent and return from running related injury. We are certified by The Running Clinic as experts in running related injuries. Schedule today at www.peakformhealthcenter.com and come see us at our running clinic in Mission Valley, San Diego.

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Drs. Kevin and Travis Rose are chiropractors trained in managing sport related injuries. Both are avid runners and triathletes, having competed in numerous races from 5ks to the Ironman World Championships in Kona Hawaii.

 

Big toe pain treatment San Diego

Functional Hallux Limitus

Proper motion through the big toe is important for walking and running. When running, as the leg moves backwards, the hip, knee, ankle (dorsiflexion), and big toe extend to propel the body forward. Loss of range of motion at one or multiple of these areas will decrease efficiency and can lead to potential injury. Functional hallux limitus is a condition that limits the amount of big toe extension. When running with this condition, a runner will avoid pushing off the big toe or will not extend fully through the hip due to the poor range of motion at the big toe. Both cases lead to poor biomechanics and potential injury.

Identifying Functional Hallux Limitus

Many times patients report that they had imaging from their previous provider and we told their big toe joint is “normal”. Generally what that means is that there are no fracture and there is no arthritis but no diagnosis is made. Functional hallux limitus means that the big toe has limited extension during gait. In other words when that joint tries to function, range of motion is limited. If you do a test non-weight bearing, the toe will have great range of motion. So is a provider is not familiar with this condition, they will say everything seems normal, stop running until it calms down.

Let’s do a quick test to see if you may be dealing with functional hallux limitus. Sit down and cross one leg ,over the top of the other leg’s thigh. Now reach down and pull back the big toe. It should move back very easily (unless you have hallux rigidus). Now, repeat the process but this time, press your thumb firmly into the bottom of the big toe joint and hold. Try and pull the big toe back. If there is very little motion, you may be dealing with functional hallux limitus. The force from your hand pressing up into the joint mimics weight bearing. So if you have poor extension with just your hand, with full body weight through the joint, motion will be more poor.

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Evaluation

Assessing the big toe is relatively straight forward. The test found above is a “go to” test for our sports chiropractors and running doctors. Overall foot  and ankle range of motion will be assessed. Structural limitations will be evaluated as well, such as presence of:

  • Plantarflexed first ray
  • Forefoot valgus
  • Forefoot varus
  • Rearfoot valgus
  • Rearfoot varus
  • Pes Planus
  • Pes Cavus
  • Bunions

Treatment

Some cases respond well to aggressive soft tissue work to the restricted tissues. Active Release Technique and Graston technique with exercises can help breakdown tight tissues that may be causing functional hallux limitus. Other cases will need shoe insert modifications to allow for the proper range of motion at the big toe. General recommendations can’t be made as it is strictly a case by case basis; some patients need one modification while others need a different one.

Our running doctors and sports chiropractors will thoroughly evaluate your specific complaint. We are conveniently located in Mission Valley, San Diego!

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Patellar Tendonitis and Knee Pain

The patellar tendon runs from the bottom point of the patella (knee cap) and runs down to the top of the tibia (shin bone). It acts as a pulley to lift the leg upward into extension when the quadricep muscles contract. Leg extension is important in many sports and day to day activities; squatting, walking up and down stairs, getting in and out of cars, etc.
When the quadriceps become overused, excessive amount of load occurs at the patellar tendon and patellar tendonitis begins to develop.

What are the Symptoms of Patellar Tendonitis?

Patellar tendonitis is characterized by pain and possibly inflammation along the patellar tendon. Early stages of patellar tendinitis tends to cause pain after exercise/aggravating activity, and then goes away hours after the activity; it may also be felt at the start exercise but feels better as exercise continues. As the condition progresses, pain may be felt before, during, and then is worse after exercise. If it gets ignored and an athlete tries to push through the pain, the tendon will actually start to deteriorate resulting in patellar tendinosis.

Patellar Tendonitis Treatment San Diego

Who are at risk?

Athletes who perform repetitive jumping and leg bending are at risk to develop patellar tendonitis. Basketball players, CrossFit athletes, volleyball players, runners, cyclists, backpackers/hikers, triathletes, are all at a higher risk due to the potential overuse of the quadricep muscles. Specifically for running and hiking, performing lots of down hill routes will increase the likelihood of developing patellar tendonitis.

Evaluation

In most cases, patellar tendinitis can be diagnosed with a thorough history of the injury and brief physical exam. In some cases, imaging such as a X-ray or MRI may be necessary to rule out other conditions such as meniscus injury, patella alta, chondromalacia, arthritis, etc. Check out our blog here for other causes of anterior knee pain.

Treatment for Patellar Tendonitis in San Diego

For acute pain relief, Active Release Technique, Graston Technique, stretching, foam rolling, and training modification are essential. As the patient improves, eccentric exercises are prescribed to repair the patellar tendon. This helps strengthen tendon fibers to resist future load from activity. Eccentric loading for patellar tendinosis is even more important as this restarts the inflammatory process at the tendon so the tendon can heal.

Stop dealing with patellar tendinitis on your own. Schedule today to get evaluated by our sports chiropractors located in Mission Valley, San Diego. We have helped countless athletes overcome knee pain with our targeted approach.

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Outer Hip Pain in Runners

Outer hip pain is a very common complaint we see with out runners at our Mission Valley office. The outer hip musculature is designed to provide hip, and lower back stabilization during running. When there is pain or tightness at the outer hip, the stability at the hip and lower back is compromised. This in turn can create abnormal stress into the hip, outer hip muscles, lower back, the knee, and even the lower leg/foot. The following conditions cause outer hip pain and dysfunction:

Causes of Outer Hip Pain

  • Glute Medius Muscle Strain
  • Tensor Fascia Latae Strain
  • Gluteus Medius Tendinopathy
  • Trochanteric Bursitis
  • Iliotibial Tract Syndrome (IT Band Syndrome)
  • Sciatic Nerve Entrapment

As mentioned above, the out hip plays a role in lower back and hip stability. If the outer hip is painful or dysfunctional the following conditions may also be present:

  • Low Back Pain
  • Facet Joint (Lower Back Joint) Irritation
  • Hip Impingement
  • Knee Tracking Issues
  • Outer Knee Pain (IT Band Syndrome)
  • Shin Splints
  • Plantar Fasciitis

Evaluation

It is important to be evaluated by a running doctor and sports chiropractor. We will help diagnose your outer hip pain and any potential compensatory injuries that may be occurring simultaneously.  A combination of range of motion, orthopedic, functional movements, and strength/endurance tests will be used to pinpoint the exact cause of your pain.

Gait Analysis

We currently offer at home gait analysis for current patients. After being evaluated in our office, if it is deemed necessary, we have our patients video tape themselves running on a treadmill and send it back to us for evaluation. For outer hip pain, many runners with outer hip pain run with what is known as a cross over gait. Check out our previous blog posts here on what a cross-over gait consists of.

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Potential sites for injury with cross over gait

Treatment for Outer Hip Pain

Active Release Technique is an excellent tool for helping runners with outer hip pain get out of pain quickly. A targeted home rehab approach is then prescribed b our running doctor as a way to prevent the injury from coming back again. Schedule with us today at our Mission Valley, San Diego running injury clinic today!

The Running Clinic Certification

Congratulations to Dr. Travis Rose, DC CCSP for successfully completing the course in “New Trends in the Prevention of Running Injuries”! This course, taught by The Running Clinic, teaches health care providers about the latest methods to treat and manage running injuries. Dr. Rose is currently the only healthcare provider with this certification in Mission Valley, San Diego.

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The following is a quick Q and A with Doctor Rose regarding running injuries.

Q: Having taken this latest course, put on by The Running Clinic, what were the main takeaways to prevent running injuries?

Dr. Rose: The main takeaways for injury prevention and increasing running efficiency were the following: 1. Run with a cadence between 170-180 steps per minute, 2. Limit the up and down motion while running (decrease vertical loading associated with injury), and 3) Use as little of a shoe as possible as this allows you to run more naturally.

Q:  Was there information that surprised you or went against conventional running information?

Dr. Rose: The biggest “eye opener” was the fact that there is zero research to support prescription of specific shoes for specific types of feet. Many people put their trust in companies to tell them which shoe to buy based on treadmill analysis. Unfortunately there is research that shows that shoes don’t limit pronation like they claim to do. So why give somebody a big bulky shoe when it doesn’t do what it is designed to do? Instead, work on the items listed above and become a better runner!

Q: What is the biggest cause of injury in runners?

Dr. Rose: It is when a runner changes something. For example, a runner runs 25 miles per week, same distances for each run. But then decides to run an extra 10 miles one week. That change in volume is what will likely cause an injury to pop up. Another example is always running on concrete or hard trails, then deciding to run 10 miles on soft sand. The body was not ready to support a long soft sand run and an injury occurs.

Q: There is a lot of information for exercises online to help improve running technique, can a runner do home exercises and fix their running flaws?

Dr. Rose: Unfortunately no. I used to be under that assumption when I was an injured runner. I would get frustrated when I would do a ton of strength exercises and core work to then run 2 miles and have that all too familiar pain come back. Running gait needs to be corrected to take strain off the injured area. Using myself as an example, I suffered from repeated shin splints due to cross over gait. It did not matter how much glute or calf strengthening I did because once I ran incorrectly again, the tendon would get overloaded and I would be back to square one. Once I learned to run with a wider step width and have a faster turn over (faster cadence), my injury went away almost immediately and I was able to slowly build back up.

Q: Any other advice on running injuries that you learned?

Dr. Rose: When in doubt, get it checked out. Running should be fun and injury free. I hear too many stories from patients about how tight and sore they are after every run. Or that pain is something “you deal with as a runner”. Not true! Get evaluated by a running doctor who can get your gait back on track. If there is not a running doctor in your area, there are a few pieces of wearable technology that can help. One being Lumo Run which gives feedback on cadence, vertical bounce, hip drop, hip rotation, and braking force. If you already run with a running watch, usually they have features that you can use (like cadence) to start really emphasizing proper technique.

Dr. Travis Rose DC CCSP and Dr. Kevin Rose DC DACBSP are Chiropractors trained to treat a wide variety of sport related injuries. Schedule a visit at our Mission Valley, San Diego office!

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Types of Hip Pain and Running

The hips play an important role during running. Running is essentially a single legged sport once you break down the movement.  The hip not only helps propel the body forward but also is a stabilizer of the lower back and the leg during the gait cycle. Due to the demands placed on the hip, it is susceptible to overuse, and acute running injuries. A running doctor can help by diagnosing the problem correctly and developing a treatment plan to get you back to running pain free.

Common types of hip injuries found in runners

There are many types of running injuries that can occur at the hip. Pain may be felt in the front, outside,inside, or back of the hip. Certain cases runner’s will describe the pain as deep in the hip joint. We will categorize the most common types of injuries we see based on location of the injury:

Front hip pain in runners

  • Hip flexor strain
  • Rectus Femoris/quadricep strain
  • Iliopsoas bursitis
  • Iliopsoas tendinitis/tendinosis
  • Rectus femoris tendinitis/tendinosis
  • Hip impingement
  • Hip labral tear
  • Stress reaction/stress fracture
  • Hernia

Outside hip pain in runners

  • Gluteus Medius tendinopathy
  • Iliotibial band syndrome
  • TFL strain
  • Trochanteric bursitis

Inside hip pain in runners

  • Adductor strain
  • Adductor tendinopathy
  • Iliopsoas tendinopathy
  • Hip impingement
  • Hernia

Back hip pain in runners

  • Hip osteoarthritis
  • Hip labral tear
  • Gluteal muscle strain
  • High Hamstring injury
  • Piriformis syndrome
  • Low back pain referral
  • Sciatica

To complicate the injury spectrum, there are cases where runners feel pain in the hip but is a referral from joint/nerve impingement from the lower back. Also if the hip is weak and injured, other injuries to the lower back, knee, shin, and foot may become prominent. Receiving a diagnosis from a running doctor trained in diagnosing and treating runners is very important.

Hip pain treatment

Our sports chiropractors at our Mission Valley office are trained to treat a wide variety of running injuries. We specialize in Active Release Technique, Graston technique, running form analysis, and rehabilitative/performance exercise. Schedule today to get evaluated by a running doctor who knows how to get your training back on track!

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Anterior Knee Pain and Running

Pain in front of the knee is a common complaint that runners seek advice for from a running doctor. There are many conditions that can cause anterior knee pain including:

  • Patellar tendinitis/tendinosis
  • chondromalacia
  • Patella tracking issues
  • Quadriceps strain
  • Hip flexor strain
  • Capusular ligament sprain
  • Meniscus injury
  • Fat pad syndrome
  • Osgood Schlatter’s disease

It is important to seek treatment from a sports physician and running doctor to get a correct diagnosis, and begin correct treatment immediately.

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What to expect at your appointment

At our Mission Valley office, our running doctor will take a thorough history of the running injury. After the history is completed an exam will occur which will include some or all of the following: range of motion, orthopedic, neurologic, functional movement, and strength/endurance tests.

Gait analysis is another important aspect for certain running conditions. We currently offer remote gait analysis where current patients can take a treadmill video of themselves running, then email it to our running doctor for evaluation. General recommendations for running technique can be found on our blog here: Increase your Cadence, and Improve Running Posture

Treatment for anterior knee pain

A combination of Active Release Technique, Graston Technique, and a home exercise program resolves many cases of anterior knee pain. We see significant results within 4-8 visits. Our goal is to our runners back to running pain free as soon as possible and have exercises to do to prevent the injury from reoccurring.

If you have been dealing with anterior knee pain during your training, please call our Mission valley office to schedule today. Our running doctors are certified to treat running injuries and get you back to running pain free fast!

Dr. Travis Rose DC is a certified health professional through The Running Clinic. Both Dr. Kevin Rose DC DACBSP and Dr. Travis Rose DC CCSP have treated hundreds of runners including Boston marathon qualifiers, and Olympic trial marathon runners.